He has 2 perfect, distance 0 mtDNA matches among 14, one is Mr. Raymundo Linares. I wouldn’t usually share a match’s name, but in this case, he already has a deep mitochondrial genealogy out there published by Crispin Rendon. Mr. Linares’ furthest maternal ancestor was a woman named Josefa Gonzalez born about 1620 in Huichapan, Hidalgo, Mexico. My grandfather is likely not a descendant of Josefa herself because her children were born in Nuevo Leon, but Hidalgo borders Tlaxcala and that might is a clue to focus on the Hidalgo/Tlaxcala area outside of Mexico City. A huge THANK YOU! to all those who do this very neglected DNA test, especially for full sequence results.
I’ve mentioned my paternal grandparents on this blog before. My grandmother on that side passed away a while back and I regret not asking her more about her life while she was alive although there was a good chance she might not have told me anything. My grandfather is still alive and doing relatively well, so I decided to ask him if I could get a DNA sample to send to Family Tree DNA. He agreed, but it was totally one of those “this is your only chance he won’t say yes again” kind of things.
His results came back early and revealed that he is Native American. Pretty much just Native American. I’m not sure if this is what he and my grandmother were hiding, but he hinted that he didn’t want to discuss the results. I was pretty lucky to have obtained the sample. All he’ll tell me is that he was born in Tlaxcala, Mexico. I figured out on my own that he is using a fake name. He confirmed this and said he dropped his Native American name a long time ago.
Paternal grandfather’s DNA analysis using MDLP World-22 at GEDmatch. He is overwhelmingly Native American. Largest percentages:
North Amerind 31.05%
South American Amerind 12.26%
His mixed-mode population sharing results stood out to me because his best fit populations are a mix of North and Central/South American. He has 162 Family Finder matches and I noticed 5 matches with what appears to be exclusively Ecuadorian ancestry and 4 with Guatemalan ancestry. Two of the Guatemalan matches were adoptees, one was somewhere between a 2nd and 3rd cousin match.
Last Tuesday I received an interesting email from Felix Chandrakumar:
“This is regarding your DNA having a genetic match with an ancient Amerindian DNA …
I had emailed the authors of the scientific paper regarding an ancient DNA matching living people. I had also included the top 100 emails in the list in bcc who have significant DNA matching the ancient DNA, in hope of getting some help/answers in solving this interesting mystery.
Is there anyone receiving this email have their kit phased? If so, please let me know. This greatly helps to confirm IBD segments in the matches. If you are not sure about phasing, please let me know if there are any kits with (any parent) and child tested for DNA and I can guide you how to do phasing in GEDMatch. Phasing helps to decide which segment comes from which parents and provides the ability to confirm the segment matches with the ancient DNA. You can know more about phasing from ISOGG wiki.”
He has since replaced the Anzick-1 kit, now F999913, at GEDMatch that has more SNPs so I reran my phased kit and the results were consistent with Felix’s.
What does this all mean? I don’t know. I was curious what would happen if I ran my dad’s kit alone compared to Anzick-1 and this is what I saw.
He has matching segments at chromosomes 1,4,6, and 8 which is awesome but then where did our phased matches on chromosomes 3 and 20 come from? Does it discount the validity of our matches? (Oh my goodness, haha duh! I just remembered to get a match with my phased kit I had to drop the threshold to 500/5 so that’s how chromosomes 3 and 20 come up. My dad’s kit matches with the standard 700/7 threshold. I re-ran his data again with 500/5 and sure enough there are chromosomes 3 & 20). I am far from an expert, but the comparison of our matches raise some red flags for me. Also note the time to MRCA, 4.4 generations? That’s crazy.
I very much want to believe we have shared ancestry and in a way I do, but I’m not sure what to make of the data.
Thanks to Armando for chatting with me about this subject.
Just kidding, it wasn’t that dramatic. My dad’s parents are Joe Conde and Amelia Juarez Rangel, although I didn’t really think about that until recently. I wasn’t very close to these grandparents because, when I was born to teenage parents who did the best they could (a damn good job if you ask me), these grandparents didn’t feel old enough to be grandma and grandpa. Amelia also tried to convince my dad I wasn’t his daughter. I thought of her when my dad’s DNA results came in and did a little jig, even though we never doubted I am my father’s daughter.
My last name was Rangel, as was my dad’s, so I always assumed that was my grandfather’s last name. Later I noticed some of my aunts and uncles were Conde. As I got into genealogy I neglected my dad’s side because I feel very distant from them. As time went on, I questioned my dad’s (and his dad’s) last name. First off, it’s weird that my father has his mom’s maiden name but I had him join the Rangel Project at Family Tree DNA just in case. I couldn’t find a Conde project. In any case my father’s Y-DNA at 12 markers has no matches. None!
My dad asked an older brother about all of this, and my uncle admitted to having asked my grandfather because he also had his suspicions. My uncle said that my grandfather admitted his last name was false and told him his real last name which my uncle did not remember although he said “it sounded very indigenous.”
Two things surprised me about her autosomal results: her 10% nonspecific Northern European (in addition to 3.7% British & Irish and .9% French & German), and her low amount of Middle Eastern and North African. It makes me think my Family Tree DNA results are off.