Tag Archives: Haplogroup E-M35.1

Mom’s Autosomal DNA

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MomAC

Two things surprised me about her autosomal results: her 10% nonspecific Northern European (in addition to 3.7% British & Irish and .9% French & German), and her low amount of Middle Eastern and North African.  It makes me think my Family Tree DNA results are off.

V7I wrote about my mom’s mitochondrial haplogroup here.

Sauceda Paternal Haplogroup/ Y-DNA

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My mom’s father’s surname was Sauceda and I was able to get one of my uncles to submit a sample for paternal line testing (only to the 37th marker, I don’t know if we’ll upgrade).  This is what we found:

Sauceda Y DNA

His haplogroup is E projected subclade is E-M35.1 if we tested more markers.  You can click my Haplogroup E-M35.1 tag if you would like to see my older posts on this subclade since it is also my husband’s subclade (Though I think this would change if we tested more markers.  His birthday is coming up, so we’ll see.). We don’t actually know anything about grandpa’s father partially because we couldn’t actually find his birth certificate.  But we do know that grandpa’s mother was born in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, Mexico.  Grandpa and his brothers were born in Tyler, Texas so his father either met his mother in Texas or Tamaulipas I think.

Anyway, I submitted my uncle’s sample for inclusion in the Mexico DNA Project and humbly ask you to check it out and join.  Please.  Especially if you suspect any of your lines are Native American because the database needs more samples!  This is the description:

“The Genealogy of Mexico DNA Project was started on 9/7/03 and is for those whose Y-dna (father’s father’s father’s…) or Mitochondrial DNA (mother’s mother’s mother’s …) line extends to Mexico or New Spain. This includes the following states prior to 1848; California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, Utah and Colorado.

I have always wondered about the origins of my ancestors in Mexico. In 1998 I started The Genealogy of Mexico website with this in mind. It has always been my hope that information shared would lead us to the genealogical answers we seek.
With new advances in science it is possible to determine our ancient origins and see who we are related to.

PLEASE NOTE: the following names are names we are researching and may not necessarily be in the project. This research can be found on THIS website. This study concerns all the surnames of Mexico.”

Interestingly, my uncle has a match (although not a perfect match which indicates a few generations have passed since we shared a common ancestor) whose last name is Sancedo.  Mr. Sancedo mentioned to me that his father told him the surname had been Saucedo a long time ago but was changed at some point.  He doesn’t know why.

The Garza Sauceda Men

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Here is a picture of who I believe is my grandfather Bernardo Garza Sauceda and his brother, either Paul or Ysidro.  They were from Tyler, Smith County, Texas.

I think this is Benny because I know he played baseball as a young man, he was short, and he was not in the service. I have found records of Ysidro in the service, but this person in uniform next to Benny looks like Paul to me.

See? I’m sure that guy in the baseball uniform was Grandpa Benny and not his brothers.

This is Paul’s obituary which does not mention time in the armed services, but the man in the first picture looks like this to me.

And I think this is Ysidro, the other brother.

I’m also gonna throw this out there. They look alike. I think that’s Grandpa Benny, my mother’s father.

*drops microphone* I rest my case.

DH’s Deep Ancestry UPDATED 11/22/12

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We received DH’s results on the day Portabella passed, we haven’t really been motivated to do the background research on his haplogroup since then. Things will eventually get back to normal and hopefully this will help.

DH’s Y-DNA haplogroup has been identified as E1b1b1 (M35.1 shorthand) which is thought to have branched from E1b1b (M215) with its expansion into the Mediterranean/Southeastern Europe from the Middle East (to the Middle East from the Horn of Africa).

DH had a ton of exact matches on Family Tree DNA but since he was tested only to the 12 marker that’s not surprising.  These matches are very “low resolution” because of the depth of the test, so his refine to 67 test should tell us more.  These results are expected around October 1.  This is all interesting because DH’s family is said to be very Turkish which is not well received in present-day Bulgaria.  According to Eupedia’s Y-DNA information, the E1b1b haplogroup accounts for 22% of Bulgarians and 11% of Turks.  It occurs in the second highest frequency in Bulgaria, just slightly behind haplogroup I2 (22.5%).  The most frequent haplogroup in Turkey is J2 at 24% followed by R1b at 16% (combined = 40%).  I’m assuming my father-in-law’s family is not as Turkish as people believe, at least not on his father’s side.  However, we don’t have any genetic information on my father-in-law’s mother.

DH’s paternal uncle (in the grey/silver clothing), DH’s mother, father, and little brother.

DH and his father

This is what the Genographic Project says about E1b1b1:

Place of Origin: Middle East

The final common ancestor in your haplogroup, the man who gave rise to marker M35.1, was born around 20,000 years ago in the Middle East. His descendants were among the first farmers and helped spread agriculture from the Middle East into the Mediterranean region.  At the end of the last ice age around 10,000 years ago, the climate changed once again and became more conducive to plant production. This probably helped spur the Neolithic Revolution, the point at which the human way of living changed from nomadic hunter-gatherers to settled agriculturists.

The early farming successes in the Fertile Crescent of the Middle East beginning around 8,000 years ago spawned population booms and encouraged migration throughout much of the Mediterranean world.  Control over their food supply marks a major turning point for the human species. Rather than small clans of 30 to 50 people who were highly mobile and informally organized, agriculture brought the first trappings of civilization. Occupying a single territory required more complex social organization, moving from the kinship ties of a small tribe to the more elaborate relations of a larger community. It spurred trade, writing, calendars, and pioneered the rise of modern sedentary communities and cities.

These ancient farmers, your ancestors, helped bring the Neolithic Revolution into the Mediterranean.  This is where your genetic trail, as we know it today, ends. However, be sure to revisit these pages.  As additional data are collected and analyzed, more will be learned about your place in the history of the men and women who first populated the Earth. We will be updating these stories throughout the life of the project.

*Update*

Ok, so I didn’t know what I was talking about when I first wrote this!  We upgraded DH’s test to the 67th marker and it isn’t complete yet, but enough information is in to know that yes indeed, DH’s paternal line is Turkish/Ottoman like whoa.  The first clue was when the Bulgarian DNA Project listed him under “Bulgarian Turks”.  There is a Turks of Bulgaria project too, so I signed him up for that.  We should do his mitochondrial DNA for fun since DH’s mom is Bulgarian Bulgarian (not Turkish Bulgarian).

At the 12-marker test, DH had a ton of exact matches: Albania, Armenia, Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, England, Ethiopia, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Kosovo, Lithuania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Prussia, Portugal, Romania, Russian Federation, Scotland, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, and Wales.

At the next step, 25-marker, he only had 1 match and it was not exact (2 step match). The guy’s ancestor was from Portugal which makes sense because of the Moors.

UPDATE 2

Here is the new information from Geno 2.0 .  We haven’t considered paying for the upgrade and I went to see the webpage on a whim.  I’m glad I did because DH’s Y-DNA information was updated.  He appears to be moved to M215 which is listed as a rare or non-existent clade.

Y-DNA Geno 2.0